Too Hard to Awaken Whites to White Genocide? An Exchange with Jared Taylor

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Jared Taylor of American Renaissance has given permission to post our recent correspondence. His portion is very brief, but states clearly his position.

Here are his four replies, followed by our entire correspondence.

#1 For most people the word “genocide” means active killing, so to accuse anyone of perpetrating genocide against whites simply sounds bizarre to them.

#2 I certainly encourage your efforts to associate current policies with the word “genocide,” and I hope you succeed, but I think it is a hard sell. Much of the problem is that whites are still a majority and could change immigration policy tomorrow if they wanted to. The non-whites who are moving here cannot be blamed for wanting to leave their failed countries behind and come live here. It is our own policies that are insane, so it is a kind of self-induced genocide, or genocide by inactivity. That is why I think most people would therefore think that anyone who says whites are victims of genocide would be perplexed or even derisive.

#3 All of us have different approaches and that is as it should be. Different approaches appeal to different audiences, and let us hope that eventually enough whites will wake up to make a difference.

#4 You are free to publish what I have sent you, and I wish you every success in your efforts.

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Here’s our entire correspondence. My first letter is mainly the text of a previous article, “Join Mr. Jared Taylor of American Renaissance in a Meditation on White Genocide.”

 

Dear Mr. Taylor,

I originally wrote the letter below as just a post directed to readers rather than to yourself. I’ve changed it as much as I could in order to turn it into a letter to yourself, but in some parts the tone or content may feel in some way inappropriate. If so, please forgive me for that. I’ll be posting the letter on Amren and in a few other places as OPEN LETTER TO MR. JARED TAYLOR OF AMERICAN RENAISSANCE.

Dear Mr. Taylor,

Please picture in your mind your country, or your city, or your neighborhood, or whatever area is dear to you, and then picture in your mind floods of brown folk pouring across the borders into that area you’re picturing.

Then please also picture in your mind the increasing number of mixed couples you see daily in that area that have brown children, and picture that every single year from now on you will notice more and more of those mixed couples and more of their brown children.

Please picture the schoolyards you’ve seen in your area that have a remarkably larger number of brown children than the adult population in your area has brown adults.

Picture those schoolyards becoming even more numerously filled with brown children as time moves on, and the flood of brown families that’s being permitted and encouraged to cross over the borders into your area never ceasing, and the number of mixed families with brown children you see growing each year to a larger number.

See that brownness growing until there is no more whiteness.

And then please ask yourself if at Towson University you spoke about what was most important, the relentless flooding of our countries with non-whites and the relentless forced integration of ourselves with those non-whites so as to assimilate us and blend us out of existence.

If this genocide that is being carried out against whites is permitted to succeed, all the other concerns that you spoke of will be moot.

I’ve thought all day and tried to understand, but I do NOT understand why you never once used the word “genocide” to describe what is being done to whites.

And I do not understand how you were able to describe with such wonderful articulateness for an hour and a half the many injuries that are being done to whites, and never once even use the term to describe those injuries that is our best soldier on the ground today, “anti-white.”

I’m honestly flummoxed by both of these things.

Sincerely,
(signed)

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[Reply from Jared]

For most people the word “genocide” means active killing, so to accuse anyone of perpetrating genocide against whites simply sounds bizarre to them.

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Dear Mr. Taylor,

I wish I could remember how the bizarre word “racist” (racial feelings are a learned pathology rather than an innate human trait that evolved to protect the survival of human groups?) sounded to me when I first heard it. Remembering myself as a teenager in the 1950s, I think the word would have struck me then as an extravagant concoction.

But just as with “racist,” once the term “white genocide” has been heard several thousand times by every white in the country, not only will it not seem bizarre, it will seem self-evident!

But thanks for your honest response, and I’m also told that you DID use the term anti-white once in your speech…I hope it slipped into some white minds unnoticed!

Those of us from BUGS who post in the mainstream hammer and hammer the term “anti-white” so it will chase the term “racist” out of white minds and will occupy those minds in its stead! We hammer the terms “white genocide” and “anti-white” so that those terms will become a reflexive part of white thinking and will do the same work for us that the R-word and its extended family have done for anti-whites!

At 2:15–3:23 and 5:06–5:40, less than two minutes altogether, Don Black shows in this CBS interview about the Sikh temple shooting how “genocide” can be introduced in a reasonable way:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=870vL2JhqC8&feature=player_detailpage

Of course anti-whites have arguments that they present to all aspects of such BUGS material on genocide, but at BUGS I think we’ve already done very well in working out replies to every objection we’ve seen so far!

[Readers: I should have clarified in that last paragraph that our “replies to every objection” are crafted to simply turn the focus back to our own Mantra points!]

Sincerely,
(signed)

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Dear Mr. _____,

I certainly encourage your efforts to associate current policies with the word “genocide,” and I hope you succeed, but I think it is a hard sell. Much of the problem is that whites are still a majority and could change immigration policy tomorrow if they wanted to. The non-whites who are moving here cannot be blamed for wanting to leave their failed countries behind and come live here. It is our own policies that are insane, so it is a kind of self-induced genocide, or genocide by inactivity. That is why I think most people would therefore think that anyone who says whites are victims of genocide would be perplexed or even derisive.

Best regards,
Jared Taylor

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Mr. Taylor, please allow me to jump right in to your reply!

I certainly encourage your efforts to associate current policies with the word “genocide,” and I hope you succeed, but I think it is a hard sell.

I think our advertising and public relations industries have proven there is no such thing as “a hard sell”!

Was convincing smokers that “Winstons taste good like a cigarette should” a hard sell in the 1950s? That little jingle sent Winstons to the top in sales. (Our message, “Winstons taste bad, like the worse cigarette you ever had,” looks like a winner too!)

People will believe ANYthing if they hear it repeated constantly in the right words. I tried very hard in my last communication to make the point that that is EXACTLY how the R-word and the entire PC concoction has been sold, and that’s how we intend to sell White Genocide. And the fact that white genocide is the truth means we can take to the mat anyone who seriously challenges it!

Who would have thought in 1950 that the obvious lie could be sold that the black and white races are the same in intelligence and in everything else? I grew up in Virginia in the 1940s and 1950s, and my grandparents at least would have thought anyone INSANE who believed such nonsense!

But that lie was sold along with many other lies, simply by being repeated constantly everywhere.

As the research and experience of the advertising and public relations industries have sadly shown, the hard sell, the impossible sell, is to rely on beautifully clear analyses articulately delivered. But the sure sell is to rely on steady repetition of confident simple messages delivered with simple strong words that penetrate and stick.

Much of the problem is that whites are still a majority and could change immigration policy tomorrow if they wanted to…It is our own policies that are insane, so it is a kind of self-induced genocide, or genocide by inactivity.

The masses could suddenly rise up in a way they never have when there’s no leaders? The white part of this nation’s elite have sold out, and the anti-white structures in place now don’t allow any other leaders (such as yourself, as a good example!) to arise and take hold! Every institution we have tells the white masses that you are a very nasty fellow!

I don’t believe that we did this genocide to ourselves. We weren’t allowed to vote on either of its two components, the flooding of our countries with non-whites, or our forced integration with non-whites to cause us to “assimilate,” i.e. intermarry and be blended out of existence.

Today when reducing whites in every way is openly held to be the moral good, the two components I just mentioned work together to satisfy the UN definition of genocide: Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

Maybe it’s my long time spent in the left, but I (and the other bugsers) make a distinction between the white masses and the whites at the top who should be leading the rest of us but aren’t, whereas you seem to not make that distinction (?). The traitorous white anti-whites at the top are the “worse” anti-whites of all!

The non-whites who are moving here cannot be blamed for wanting to leave their failed countries behind and come live here.

Absolutely. The genocide is committed by anti-whites who have permitted, encouraged, and aided the non-whites to come here and settle here.  Changing our immigration laws in 1965 to admit more non-whites, while assuring us that the changes would not in practice affect our racial composition, is just one genocidal action of many that could be cited.

And please note our technique here: that phrase, “one genocidal action,” may have an extravagant sound to our ears at the present moment, but if such phrases are repeated widely for just a few years, people will imagine that such phrases have been used as long as human memory (which will be so true, ha!), just as they now assume “racist” has been!

It is our own policies that are insane, so it is a kind of self-induced genocide, or genocide by inactivity. That is why I think most people would therefore think that anyone who says whites are victims of genocide would be perplexed or even derisive.

I responded above to that first sentence, and yes, “perplexed or derisive” describes very well the reactions we get!

Having thus gained our audience’s attention, we just take the worse anti-whites among them and press them relentlessly until they’re obviously bested (sometimes they gratifyingly implode!), in front of the reachable white onlookers who are our actual targets.

We chiefly make the point that the entire “anti-racist” program is aimed ONLY at whites (“Anti-white, would you support flooding African countries with non-Africans and forcing the Africans by law to integrate so as to “assimilate,” i.e. intermarry and be blended out of existence? Would you scream the R-word at any African who objected?”), and is aimed at our elimination (“Why is it, anti-white, that all your ideas lead to a future without white children?”)

We like to say “ALL white countries…are being flooded…,” and we get objections that there are exceptions such as the Ukraine (where I believe attempts are being made to prep that country to be flooded). One of our replies to that is, “So, anti-white, would you accept the Ukraine as being a homeland exclusively for whites?”

One way or another, we trap the anti-whites in their own contradictions, and sometmes they become so angry that they come right out and say that they support white genocide. At that point we don’t say another word.

We always take the offensive….we have the moral high ground and WE ask the questions! We impose OUR terminology instead of doing anti-whites the favor of repeating THEIR terminology!

As I suggested in one of the several posts I put up on the Amren thread Friday, I wish that whenever you speak you’d make the deal that after a questioner is finished, YOU get to ask HIM some questions! 

Anyone can check out our daily postings in mainstream media here,

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/where-did-you-post-the-mantra-today-ii/page/563/

And Beefcake’s simple instructional podcasts on our methods are excellent:

http://whitegenocideproject.com/beefcakes-bootcamp-episode-1-intro-to-the-swarm/

Mr. Taylor, thank you very much if you’ve taken time to read all of this and maybe even think about it a little bit. And I want to express again as I have in my posts my admiration and appreciation for you and for all you’ve done, and especially for your standing up in public for the white cause for so many years. In addition, your site, American Renaissance, is where myself and so many others in the white movement received our basic educations, for which we are very grateful to you!

And of course I welcome very much any response from you to this communication if you care to reply. There are important nuances (questions of different audiences, different circumstances, etc.) that neither of us have touched on.

Sincerely,
(signed)

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Dear Mr. _____,

All of us have different approaches and that is as it should be. Different approaches appeal to different audiences, and let us hope that eventually enough whites will wake up to make a difference.

Best regards,
Jared Taylor

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Thanks, Mr. Taylor. I’m not sure how deeply we engaged, but I do feel you gave me a clear understanding of your own position, which is something I’ve wanted to have for a long time, and so I appreciate that very much.

I hope I’ve also been able to give you a clearer understanding of what BUGS is. BUGS is growing and will be important, and we are very conscious of the difficulty the rest of the white movement has in understanding the extremely different approach we use.

I wish I could be confident that I presented those differences clearly enough that you were able to understand them even though you don’t wish to adopt them.

I believe it’s important that all the strains in our movement understand the thinking of the other strains, and in that interest, would you give your permission for me to simply post our exchange verbatim for the other bugsers? My honest guess is that, after a possible initial flurry of irritation, they will feel as I do, much more at ease to finally have clear statements from you of your position.

For your convenience, here’s the three communications you’ve sent me:

[Here I copied the three communications Jared had sent me up to this point]

I thank you again for clarifying your position for me, and I want to thank you again for all you have done for the white cause, and I extend my very best wishes to you!

Sincerely,
(signed)

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[From Jared]

You are free to publish what I have sent you, and I wish you every success in your efforts.

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[my reply]

Thank you very much! (no msg)

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49 comments for “Too Hard to Awaken Whites to White Genocide? An Exchange with Jared Taylor

  1. December 28, 2013 at 10:51 am

    The following is an analogy of our impending white extinction & current genocide: A football game , The ball is White truth about our white genocide & extinction, It MUST GET TO THE anti-white en zone to convince on the fence whites & even anti-whites to become awake and how serious the problem is & STOP genocide & extinction from happening. As I see it, we Whites are at the 10 yard line of our own goal line and its 4th quarter & 4th down with just enough time to get the ball down field to score & win the game, We whites are in possession of the ball. The anti-white team is BIG DUMB & STUPID , but through sheer bruit FORCE have moved the ball to our 10 yard line(10 yrs. to extinction line). Our white team has some great players, JT. is a great Quarterback & defensive back as well , there are other lesser known ones as well to be sure not to be discounted if they get the ball & run with it. BUT, as of NOW our best OFFENSIVE END (Which is what we need NOW, more than ever !) , to move the ball down field & score is, White GeNOcide Project Yeah! He’s the best , but there are some unknowns that could happen too , because when it’s crunch time and ALL hands are on deck, desperate things happen at the end of a game like this, its all or nothing, sink or swim, To be or NOT to be. Given the position we whites are in on the field & time left the play should be simple, get the ball to WG. however you can & block for him if possible he’s the one that will make it to the goal line & win the game of survival for our race. If anyone can at this point.

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  2. February 11, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Really no matter if someone doesn’t know after that its up to other users that they will help, so here it takes place.

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  3. Anonymous
    January 26, 2013 at 1:02 am

    “Because whites are a majority, it’s a hard sell”?
    What kind of pyscho black man would say, after hundreds of millions of non-blacks were poured into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries, and blacks FORCED to “assimilate” with all those non-blacks while black children and ONLY black children on this planet were rendered an ever decreasing minority in their own countries with no end in site – aka an OBVIOUS program of black GENOCIDE: “it’s not GENOCIDE until EVERY single black country is 49% black!”. What ever happened to “diversity is our greatest strength”??? Down the memory hole? Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

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  4. Some blonde blue dude
    November 20, 2012 at 1:27 am

    by the time i woke up to race, it was too late for alot of others…

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  5. Some blonde blue dude
    November 20, 2012 at 1:26 am

    Blonde Hairs, Red Hairs, Blue Eye’s Green Eye’s, Cranial Capacity 1800=Aryan Nordic Scandinavian, They are less then 1% of the world and with one stroke can be whipped off in a single generation, Satan-“Just Give Me One Generation” i and many other aryans have been taught that the word Aryan and being a racist is bad, only later i discovered that i AM Aryan, and people are Different Race’s, being a racist to me is some jerk going “you dumb wet back”, being a realist is “oh why is your entire country a fail and why are you flooding mine”? a more literate way of saying it. being racist is dumb,

    you already know they are different, accept they are mentally different as you will see, and you will understand we have been duped with this “Racist” accusation, in my opinion, who would not want to have my dna? blonde blue and related to the GODZ BOYA, lol Save the Scandinavian Race!

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  6. Some blonde blue dude
    November 20, 2012 at 1:09 am

    We Should Spam Out News Stations “No To White Genocide” or sighns like “Google White Genocide”. get infront of cnn camera’s with those sighns(live)

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  7. Henry Davenport
    October 25, 2012 at 11:24 am

    This comment by Jason was featured at BUGS today. All of the comment is useful, but I’ve boldfaced the portion that’s especially responsive to one of Jared Taylor’s statements.

    “Whenever anyone tells us the Mantra can’t work for this-or-that reason, ask them what kind of roadtesting they’ve done to establish that. It will always be a big fat zero.”

    “’We’ Whites talk about all Whites, as if there was no such thing as race-traitors. As if we didn’t have millions of traitors among us. It is not ‘Whites’ in general who decided to flood their countries with Third Worlders, desegregate their schools, and force assimilation. It was Anti-Whites that did that, including big numbers of White race traitors.”

    “None of those Anti-White measures would pass a popular vote among Whites, even to this day. These Anti-Whites have assumed a position of power among Whites, but they have no loyalty to Whites.”

    “They are not mere puppets being led astray by ‘the Jew’ or helpless victims of Illuminati mind control. No, they are fully responsible for their actions.”

    “If normal Whites have a flaw, maybe it’s being too good-natured; not seeing the prevalence of traitors in their midst. This is why we must push the concepts of ‘Anti-Whites’, ‘race-traitors’, and ‘White Genocide’, into the mainstream, so that future generations have some protection. And we must add to that the Sociopath (or the borderline case disguised as a Hipster or Yuppie) who may not necessarily promote genocidal policies, but has a nonchalant attitude toward the genocide of his people.”

    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/10/25/jason-nails-down-some-nitigritty/

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  8. Harumphty Dumpty
    October 21, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    The gate seems to have slammed shut again on getting any Mantra up on Jared’s site, American Renaissance. On a 100-post thread with no Mantra on it at all, I couldn’t even get this reasonably on-topic post to stay up (in response to another post i put up about “white privilege” that was allowed to stand) in two attempts on separate days:

    When posting in the mainstream from the site I work from, we get a lot of yammer from anti-whites about “white privilege.” Our replies are usually along the line of,

    “In Japan, all the important positions are occupied by Japanese. Do you denounce Japanese in Japan as having  ‘Japanese privilege’? Do you denounce Koreans in Korea as having ‘Korean privilege’?

    No, you only denounce whites in white countries as having ‘privilege’!

    You say you are anti-racist, but what you are is anti-white!

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white!”

    Our opponent’s response to that usually sets us up to point out that he’s an anti-white who supports white genocide.

    But back to the topic: Do you suppose Japanese would be allowed to have a Japanese History Day in Japan?

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  9. Gio
    October 17, 2012 at 4:44 am

    White is a fake race.. Hell in America anyone can be deemed white and in the future, Mulattos will even be if some aren’t already now. White is an Anglo Saxon construct. Even an Italian American such as myself would not be seen as “white” if I disagree with this. “Whites” namely Anglos are inflicting this genocide upon everyone here along with the Joos. I am tired of having to sit in a world where everyone is saying things like “Anti racist is a code word for Anti white”.. In Europe, you’re either Irish, Italian, Russian, German, Slavic, Polish or whatever else.. Theres no “White” race over there and I like that better because think of Multiculturalism and how many here complain about that when its with non whites.. well now think about it as far as the white race goes.. Assimilation to a form of an English culture was required to be considered “White American”.. all Europeans who came here ideally had to drop their original cultures to fit into one Anglo whole or put it on the back burner.. what has that done though? Its made it worse to me. If you want to have an Italian name without discrimination here in America, YOU SHOULD! I guess I am an “Anti White” as well. They say Anti Racist is code word for Anti White, but Anti White is code word for Anti American to me and in America, all these racial radical groups are doing is creating American wholes of whites.. not really acknowledging a certain European heritage.. Multiculturalism only for the white race. It is complicating enough the way this has become and then you add religious issues whites are fighting about here AND on top of all this to make it even more complicated, you let the non whites take part in things and assimilate to this “American” whole. So to me, I am not even as white as some blacks are in this country even, but guess what.. I can live with it just fine.

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    • Jason
      October 18, 2012 at 7:43 am

      All Whites do have something in common – all White countries and ONLY White countries are being forced to take huge numbers of non-White immigrants to the point they will no longer be White countries. This is not happening to African, Asian, Latino or Middle Eastern countries. Only Whites and ALL White ones. So, we do have much in common, thanks to the Anti-Whites.

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    • MissBonnie123
      October 18, 2012 at 5:12 pm

      What you are saying doesn’t make sense. Only someone who is anti-White would deny the existence of White people. It is a way to dehumanize all White people. It is a way to force us to accept our own demise through mass immigration and miscegenation.

      You can bet nonwhites believe that Whites exist because they blame White people for all of their problems.

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    • RobbyRobot
      October 23, 2012 at 8:10 pm

      @Gio
      Funny how you Anti-whites have no problem identifying Whites as a unique and distinct racial/ethnic group, when it comes to inciting against White children everywhere on planet Earth, for the Holocaust, Slavery, Colonialism, etc

      And yet….

      When we want to talk about the ethnic displacement and constructive GENOCIDE of those same Whites, even in Europe, suddenly you anti-Whites act like you can’t tell an African from an Eskimo…

      What amazes me more than anything else, is that people still take you SICK FOOLS seriously.

      Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

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    • Harumphty Dumpty
      October 24, 2012 at 1:48 am

      I assume that the resistance of Brits to Eastern Europeans flooding into Britain stems from the same natural feeling as their resistance to non-whites flooding into Britain.

      I think it’s futile and counter-productive to try to squelch that natural feeling in the first case in the service of “white unity” in the second case.

      Other bugsers with much more knowledge of Europe than I have (but possibly less knowledge of human nature?) disagree with me.

      But all of us agree that whites everywhere need to understand that there is a program underway to genocide them as WHITES.

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    • JackandMay
      October 24, 2012 at 2:16 am

      Whites should be allowed to maintain our homelands for ourselves, like any other peoples.

      The French should be allowed to maintain France for the French, the Germans should be allowed to maintain Germany for the Germans, and so on.

      In the U.S. the distinctions between different white groups have become rather blurred, but the same general principle should apply: if the residents of an Italian neighborhood in the U.S. want to maintain their neighborhood as Italian, that should be allowed.

      And while we care about whites, we would probably agree that all peoples should have places where they can be with their own kind and maintain their own kind.

      I think the topic of white sub-groups hasn’t been adequately discussed at Bugs.

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    • Calling All The Clans Together
      October 24, 2012 at 2:24 am

      I agree with both posts. The rights of individuals should be protected and also the rights of groups, but all white individuals and all white groups need to understand that they are being genocided as WHITES.

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    • Some blonde blue dude
      November 20, 2012 at 1:20 am

      i am white, i am blonde and blue, i am dirty blonde, i am from the main concentraion of white which is red and blonde and pink fair skin, there WAS a white man, and infact Aryans, Nordics, Scandinavian Decent are scattered around the world, and there is about 15-20 million left on earth which is about 1% of earth total population, the red hair and blonde hair dyes, you can have a billion blue eye’d black hairs the white race will still be dead. Save whats left god damnit, this is not how i want to f***ing die, knowing i went existent, just by even thinking and allowing that to be thought of the way is it is is like a infection being spread full of lies
      Loveley!!!!!!! or… Against All Odd’s

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    • gemjunior
      September 29, 2013 at 9:55 am

      That is all crazy talk. People like you are fucking kryptonite to white people. You haven’t got the strength or backbone to stand up to anti-whites because you aren’t even really sure that what is happening to white people is wrong. I think some people in this world just sway with the stronger breeze. If you can’t help us, don’t say anything. Please. It’s disheartening. The one good thing about your post is that it’s schizophrenic and it’s senseless, so people can shrug and say the guy who wrote that must be nuts……

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  10. James
    October 15, 2012 at 10:43 am

    #1 For most people the word “genocide” means active killing, so to accuse anyone of perpetrating genocide against whites simply sounds bizarre to them.

    What “most people” think isn’t the issue. The issue is a legal one. Under the law you cannot impose conditions of life on a race (including the White race) calculated to bring about their destruction. This includes White people imposing conditions of life on the White race calculated to bring about it’s destruction. So all those White government officials that have participated in flooding our countries with non-Whites and integrating our communities are guilty of genocide.

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  11. White and Normal
    October 13, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    From the point of view of victims and of the law, the crime of genocide is like any other crime, it’s a crime no matter who commits it.

    So even if we were to all agree that the self-hatred and all the other aspects of our genocide had been taught and carried out by whites alone, those particular whites would still be committing genocide of a people.

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    • Bobby Lee
      October 13, 2012 at 9:38 pm

      As Truck Roy so often says on the Don and Derek Black show, and which I copied verbatim a couple of shows ago,

      “Our enemy is not black, our enemy is not brown. Our enemy looks like us but has no loyalty to us…this one point…if we can get that into the discourse…it nullifies…the race…baiting…”

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    • white_genocide_survivor
      October 15, 2012 at 10:30 am

      That’s true, and cleverly put. And that’s our job, to be truthful but also thoughtful in how to most effectively deliver the truth. Too many pro-whites believe what the advertising industry and the public relations industry discovered to be naive and mistaken, that truth alone will sway a mass of people no matter how it’s delivered.

      White GeNOcide!
      Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white!

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  12. October 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    I cannot believe that Jared doesn’t know that our problem is white self-hatred.
    The fact that whites applaud when told whites will soon be a minority in their own countries is the problem.
    A lot of anti-whites have used Jared’s argument. But the fact that it is whites who seek the destruction of their own race does not make white genocide healthier, it makes the whole thing sicker.
    Jared says that so long as whites are destroyed by whites, things are okee-dokee.
    A lot of anti-whites have tried that tactic against us, and they got squashed every time.

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    • gemjunior
      September 29, 2013 at 9:47 am

      This is correct because the main reason of whites hating themselves is what? Why have white people, since 1950s, become raceless, nationless, and Godless? They have embraced what was placed before them in lieu of the things that they thrived under. There was a fakeout and a switch which we succumbed to en masse (not us, obviously, but the majority of those around us). Couldn’t see the difference between lies and the truth. Eye candy in thousands of forms that gradually devolved into total filth and mockery where Christian religious figures are figures of fun and a certain group is sacred, immune to criticism above all others. The fact that white people cannot even get together a group of people large enough to stand together on this matter is worrisome. Also worrisome is that by the time most whites DO figure out that they are in massive trouble it will be too late because the hordes will have infiltrated every government and most likely be in control. It’s almost too late now although I am hopeful that seemingly a lot of whites lately are really speaking out in the newspaper comments. Whites have to escape the brainwashing, which they are uniquely responsive to due to ‘pathological altruism’ or harsh self-examination. The sacred cow has to be exposed and discussed, the untouchable group must be approached and told that it’s known what they’re doing and they need to cut the shit. They also need to repair it by constantly airing programs and news and documentaries about the greatness of white people and the comparative miniscule misdeeds done by them in comparison to all they’ve given the world. In a few years all can be set right again.

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  13. george wells
    October 13, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    What’s the definition of insanity?

    The core of his thinking is missing something major.

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  14. Jason
    October 13, 2012 at 9:07 am

    Well very good effort of getting the point across HD, and I think the exercise is valuable. Mr. Taylor’s opinions are probably what he honestly feels and it probably is what strikes many people as too “harsh” (the term ‘genocide’). I remember when I first saw it, along with the Mantra, I had a dual reaction:

    1. Wow, that is a really strong term that is inflammatory
    2. Everything written is absolutely true.
    That is a powerful combo.
    Now, it seems to me, that if Mr. Taylor and others thought the term ‘genocide’ wouldn’t work on a PR level, they could at least promote the basic concepts. Mainstream the term ‘anti-White’ for example. Or point out what it would look like if all of Africa was going to be majority non-black in 50 years. In other words, they could still push the underlying themes.

    Maybe Bob is right about the Institution thing. Amazing how FAST they become ossified.

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    • Wuntz Moore
      October 13, 2012 at 10:37 am

      Here’s Bob’s blog on Jared’s replies.
      http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/10/13/a-reply-from-jared-taylor/

      I love it that Bob’s link to this thread takes the reader directly to view_from_the_woodpile‘s post as copied in Henry’s second post above.

      Woodpile’s short comment is the BEST reply to Jared I’ve seen!

      Hey Woodpile! Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white!

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    • view_from_the_woodpile
      October 13, 2012 at 11:30 am

      Your man Mr. Taylor needs to loosen up and shake it a bit!

      He doesn’t understand how to do the victimhood thing at all. You don’t get out there and be a victim, you get out there and talk about being a victim!

      Too bad you guys don’t have a draft. Beefcake’s Bootcamp would fix him up. “Anti-whites are carrying out a program of white genocide, YES SIR!”

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  15. ocean_of_diamonds
    October 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Good points in favor of being up front with genocide are being made on this Amren thread that’s about Jared Taylor’s appearance on the Huff Post program:

    http://www.amren.com/news/2012/10/white-student-union/#comment-680102371

    I especially like JustaWhiteMom‘s comment:

    There is absolutely no principled basis on which to oppose what is being done to Tibet as genocide while celebrating the same thing in Europe as “diversity”…

    Also, it is not even necessary to convince whites that they face genocide, though certainly many will be convinced. The word genocide itself gets peoples’ attention. Many whites may think the word is an exaggeration, but that is actually fine. The only thing that matters is that they believe they have a moral right to resist their destruction, and the argument for white genocide, whether they are ultimately persuaded by it or not, gets them thinking about whether whites have a morally legitimate interest in their own continued existence. That is what makes the mantra approach so powerful.

    Moreover, it gives whites a moral basis to oppose their own dispossession and gradual destruction. This is very important for whites, especially those who suffer from pathological altruism. The mantra can help whites develop a healthy sense of righteous indignation at their own unjustifiable dispossession.

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    • Clara Nyet
      October 20, 2012 at 11:40 am

      I finally watched the disgusting Huff Post video at your Amren link.

      The black host is sitting there surrounded by television cameras while he’s viewing Jared Taylor and other guests on a large plasma screen, he has a laptop computer sitting in front of him, he presumably was transported to his studio in some kind of motorized vehicle and maybe also made a telephone call or two en route, and maybe sometime soon he’ll take a trip in an airplane.

      And he’s asking Jared Taylor, “What IS White culture, Mr. Taylor, can you please just tell us what IS White culture?”

      Beyond surreal.

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  17. LinuxLewis
    October 11, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Well, I think the email exchange did something, because Jared and Matthew Heimbach went on a Huffington Post video stream (it’s on Amrens site), and Jared used Anti-White a few times, and actually had the other side going defensive on it.

    So maybe he is realizing IT WORKS

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    • Henry Davenport
      October 11, 2012 at 11:51 pm

      He was probably convinced by view_from_the_woodpile‘s tender remarks that I copied into my early comment upthread, and that I sent him! 🙂

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  18. LinuxLewis
    October 11, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    I do understand what Jared Taylor is saying.

    Although I am uncertain of just how successful Taylor’s campaign has been over the years, it appears to me that white identity is also a tough sell. ANYTHING that deals with the interests of whites is a tough sell from what i’ve seen.

    So what is it going to take to bring whites towards their identity? It seems to me that they need to be shocked, they need to be aware of white genocide.

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    • LinuxLewis
      October 11, 2012 at 6:41 pm

      btw, I wasn’t trying to imply that Amren isn’t a success. It’s obvious that he has quite a following, I’m sure the 2008 election helped his numbers too lol. I visit his site pretty much every weekday, enjoy it and wish him the best.

      As a Bugster, it’s just a bit frustrating to see Jared Taylor talk for a half hour, putting all the anti-white hypocrisy on display, while not using the phrase that sums it all up. A phrase that is being posted on hundreds if not thousands of websites every single day.

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    • Henry Davenport
      October 11, 2012 at 9:54 pm

      This part of Jared’s responses bewildered me the most:

      Much of the problem is that whites are still a majority and could change immigration policy tomorrow if they wanted to…It is our own policies that are insane, so it is a kind of self-induced genocide, or genocide by inactivity.

      Here’s part of my reply to that:

      “The masses could suddenly rise up in a way they never have when there’s no leaders? The white part of this nation’s elite have sold out, and the anti-white structures in place now don’t allow any other leaders (such as yourself, as a good example!) to arise and take hold! Every institution we have tells the white masses that you are a very nasty fellow!

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    • RobbyRobot
      October 12, 2012 at 1:06 am

      “It is our own policies that are insane, so it is a kind of self-induced genocide, or genocide by inactivity. ”

      The last part where he calls it genocide by inactivity, is pretty ironic, considering he has been so willfully inactive, regarding this issue. lol

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    • RobbyRobot
      October 12, 2012 at 1:16 am

      At least he is calling it genocide in conversation with you and that is something.

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    • Chicken Truck
      October 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm

      It is our own policies that are insane, so it is a kind of self-induced genocide, or genocide by inactivity.

      That statement by Jared is just a version of the familiar statement that the white race is committing suicide rather than being subjected to genocide.

      But as you point out, the anti-white white elites have sold out the white masses, and so saying that whites are committing suicide is like saying that if you killed your family and then yourself, your family committed “suicide”.

      (That point was made by a bugser at Bugs recently, but I thought up these two slogans myself):

      White GeNOcide!
      Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white!

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    • Thunder Road
      October 22, 2012 at 9:48 pm

      And of course there’s a lot more anti-whites participating in white genocide than just white anti-whites.

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    • C. C. Rider
      October 22, 2012 at 10:10 pm

      When it comes to defining “white,” Jared tends to be an inclusive kind of fellow.

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    • John Randolph
      October 22, 2012 at 10:22 pm

      Yes, he’s like the Mormons who baptize people into their own faith who would protest if they knew about it! Lol!

      But hey! I recognize his great contributions, and I entered the white movement through his site!

      And he stands up for whites publicly, which is to always be admired.

      Wow. If you had told mature adults in 1950 that in 50 more years it could be dangerous to a white person’s career to stand up publicly for whites, you would have been regarded as ridiculous.

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    • Fireball Male
      October 13, 2012 at 7:49 pm

      A lot of pro-whites who now have views very different from Jared’s were first drawn into the white movement by Jared, as testimonials on SF demonstrate!

      As Jared experiences the pleasant result of more often calling anti-whites “anti-white,” maybe he will hunger for heavier artillery…”Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white,” “Anti-whites are carrying out a program of white genocide.”

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  19. wendel
    October 11, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    I think Mr. Taylor has said he has not had much success from his life’s work of saving or awakening White people.

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    • phil white
      October 22, 2012 at 7:26 pm

      The word “anti-white” is getting into mainstream conservative dialect.
      About 20 minutes into the film “2016 ” Desousa uses the term “anti-white” in referrng to what his Indian fathers anti-colonial ideology became.
      It’s a mass audience film. It ran here in our little town for a month.

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  20. Henry Davenport
    October 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    I’ll let Mr. Taylor know where all this is posted, and also send him this comment that Woody made on the previous thread. Maybe it’ll give him a laugh, and Woody probably makes the point better than I did!

    view_from_the_woodpile
    October 10, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    You white devils can’t get your bro’ to use the term “anti-white” more than once in a speech?! LMAO at all of you!

    In my organizing days I sure didn’t have any trouble getting the brothers to use the term “racist” twenty or thirty times in every conversation!

    You white devils need to get your you-know-what together! 🙂

    I’ll know you’re really getting somewhere when you get that Taylor dude to start saying “anti-racist is a code word for anti-white”!

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  21. Henry Davenport
    October 11, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    I’m pleased to have Jared’s position clearly stated.

    But knowing Jared’s abilities, I’m wondering if I’m overlooking some profound subtleties lying just behind his words, or in them, in his second reply, which seemed to me surprisingly unsophisticated!

    I also didn’t think his second reply reflected any understanding of the points I’d just made to him, points which I then remade at dismal length in my next reply.

    My guess is that Jared considers us just one of many not very important things that may cross his desk every day, and he took only a very quick glance at what I sent him and simply evaluated us in terms of his present viewpoint about how to proceed, and didn’t take a few moments to stretch his mind and absorb the difference in our approach.

    Just my best guess, and if I’m right, I suppose there’s no reason for him to have reacted any differently.

    Uh, except for his having stated some weeks ago that he was disappointed in not having succeeded in carrying his work into the mainstream after so many decades, and so he was open to new ideas! 🙂

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